A timed, steady withdrawl is NOT failure in Iraq. John Murtha's view isn't"pull 'em all out now". He wants a steady withdrawl. Pull half of them out by next year, then slowly retract the rest, every few months. Some wil still be there fo years, without it being a full out invasion. This way, the Iraqi troops that aren't at full capacity yet will be ready by the time we're all gone.
That's another thing, there are curently more Iraqi troops than U.S. troops, and they out nember us by about 30,000. And some have been trained for over 2 years. How could they NOT be ready? Most of our troops over there haven't had 2 years training. We're using National Guardsman over there! They didn't sign up, nor are they qualified for this!
Bush wants all the troops to march out of there when all the insurgents are gone. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN! Currently in the United States, there are people who want to bring down te government, just like Iraq. And while those in the U.S. don't use IED's, the Iraqi's will probably calm down once we leave.
OK, stick with me on this next part.
President Bush is NOT nearly as bad as Sadaam Hussein. But imagine that the French, Germans, and Spanish agreed that the United States was going in the wrong direction, and decided to relieve us of our current U.S. government. They invade, and the top people of our government go into hiding. Our troops don't know what to do, and we, as citizens, are completely dumb-founded. There would probably be several of U.S. that rebel, bacause while many of us don't like President Bush, and he did scare many of you into voting for him, we don't want things to change.
So several "insurgency" groups pop up all over the U.S., trying to kill the troops, so the leaders would get the point that this is futile, and they ould withdraw. Except that they don't. Infact, they plan elections with candidates that they support, and bring MORE troops in. This has happened, and is currently happening, in Iraq. Prety scary, huh?
But back to reality. Everybody, I hope, would love for our troops to come home tomorrow. By thatwon't happen. But withdraw isn't failure,because we're not "up and leaving", we'd be doing EXACTLY what the Iraqi's want us to do. Project yourself back to the invaded America. After they've been there SO long, would you just want them to: 1. Stay there for years, 2. Up an leave at once, 3. Do a planned withdrawl, weaning the Iraqi troops to take over themselves.
I'd pick #3, but that's just the view of this Democrat. Comment on this post, and tell me what YOU think!
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